I had an interesting IM chat with my friend Jon Ward, a project manager with whom I recently worked. We were discussing the calendar functionality in Backpack and Jon brought up one of his pet bugbears – the lack of time-spanned events in Basecamp.
Jon likes Basecamp but as a project manager he wants to be able to set start and end dates for tasks or milestones, Basecamp however only allows a single date to be set.
Anyway the conversation went as follows:
Jon:
But would you use Backpack as a different tool to Basecamp?
Dave:
I think it more of a personal organiser thing, you could probably use it like basecamp but only for a single project which didn’t require time recording
Jon:
yeah was thinking that. But why they can’t put the calendar and journal in Basecamp is beyond me.
Dave:
It probably crosses purposes with the milestones calendar and the messages in basecamp
Jon:
I think they could be integrated and then you have a fully fledged project scheduler
Dave:
it’s a possibility, I’m sure that there are other online PM apps which will do that, 37sigs need to be careful not to alienate existing customers by adding too much complexity
most people started using basecamp for it’s simplicity
Jon:
Good point but a fundamental aspect to PMing is the ability to schedule work and resource plan
Dave:
It probably wasn’t an issue when they built it for their team, It’s an interesting point though, I wonder what other companies who use basecamp do for resource scheduling?
Jon:
None i’d say as it’s too clumsy at the moment
Dave:
Or use an alternative tool (MS Project or similar) and just use basecamp for progress tracking and project communications
Jon:
That’s how the majority would be working. If Basecamp had a stronger way of scheduling then they’d be onto a right winner
Dave:
I suppose it could be optional or only visible to users with PM permisions so as not to add complexity for non-PMs?
Jon:
Have it only editable. It needs to be visible for people to know what they are supposed to be working on
Editable only for PMs that is
Viewable for the resources
Dave:
OK, we should let Jason know that we’re too big for Basecamp and demand resources scheduling or we boycott the service
Jon:
I’ve already emailed them along the similar lines
Dave:
I bet they’re worried now, watch out for Web 2.0 hitmen, you can spot them easily, they have a glossy sheen and a badge that says “beta” on it.
Jon:
lmao Have they recruited Fabretti? With a name like that you’d think he would be their top hit man!
Dave:
I believe they’ve made him an offer he can’t refuse
Jon:
Thing is though, would a beta hit actually work or would I have to stay alive to give feedback for phases 0.1,2,3,4
OK, I know it got a bit silly towards the end but I’m interested to know how resource scheduling is handled by companies using Basecamp as their project management software. If this applies to you, please take a moment to answer the poll.
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Reply from 37 Signals as follows:
All our products are separate, and don’t integrate at this time. We may consider integration at a later date, but for now you can use our single sign-on method to easily link them:
http://www.37signals.com/openbar
The old “we may consider at a later date” gem of software development…
They really are missing out here. Having looked other PM software such as @task (http://www.attask.com) and Sohnar (http://www.sohnar.co.uk), all these possess the ability to forecast the required time to complete a task coupled with calendaring and resource scheduling. 37 Signals are practically there with Basecamp and Backpack (indeed, the time forecasting needs to be thought about) and I’m sure it wouldn’t take a huge amount of development to achieve it.
From what I’ve seen, quite a few people using Basecamp are using Backpack, it’s weird that they haven’t properly integrated these solutions yet.
Just came across your blog and found it so informative that I could not resist myself from commenting on it! You are really doing a great job, thanks and keep posting.
How did I get roped into this….
don’t blame me, Jon was the one who brought your name up. I was going to edit that bit out but I thought it was funny and didn’t think you’d turn down some free linkage
From my own experience, Basecamp is a good solution, even a great solution, but for a small team. The tool does an excellent job, when you have one rather small project. When it gets to more projects, I really hate the fact that they cannot be ran in one place. Opening 10 different sites from 10 different project is just not productive. Then, again this issue with dates that you’ve mentioned. As for me MS Project is not better either. So I keep searching.
As a matter of fact, we’re looking at two systems now: @task & wrike. Both of them have their good and bad moments, but wrike looks a bit better so far. Besides, it’s cheaper.
Thanks for your comments Mark, I’m not quite sure what you mean about having multiple sites for multiple projects. We are currently using the Max plan on Basecamp and have over 100 projects running from one site. As far as other applications go, I know that Jon is quite keen on @Task, Wrike is one that I’ve not seen before but it does look pretty good.
Other apps which feature the resource scheduling that we were talking about include LiquidPlanner and DeskAway (thanks to Priyanka for that last one).
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I’ve just been pointed towardss Yutiti by Indrek Kuldkepp a flex application for project management which features nice gantt chart resource scheduling.
Orchestrate has been designed as a resource scheduling app, it focuses on scheduling people to perform tasks at locations based on their qualifications. It may not suit everyone, and it doesn’t have Gantt charts.
Disclaimer: This is my company’s app