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		<title>A chat about Basecamp</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[project communications]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had an interesting IM chat with my friend Jon Ward, a project manager with whom I recently worked. We were discussing the calendar functionality in Backpack and Jon brought up one of his pet bugbears &#8211; the lack of time-spanned events in Basecamp. Jon likes Basecamp but as a project manager he wants to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an interesting IM chat with my friend <a href="http://twitter.com/jon626537">Jon Ward</a>, a project manager with whom I recently worked. We were discussing the calendar functionality in <a href="http://www.backpackit.com">Backpack</a> and Jon brought up one of his pet bugbears &#8211; the lack of time-spanned events in <a href="http://www.basecamphq.com/">Basecamp</a>.</p>
<p>Jon likes Basecamp but as a project manager he wants to be able to set start and end dates for tasks or milestones, Basecamp however only allows a single date to be set.</p>
<p>Anyway the conversation went as follows:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
But would you use Backpack as a different tool to Basecamp?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
I think it more of a personal organiser thing, you could probably use it like basecamp but only for a single project which didn&#8217;t require time recording</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
yeah was thinking that. But why they can&#8217;t put the calendar and journal in Basecamp is beyond me.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
It probably crosses purposes with the milestones calendar and the messages in basecamp</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
I think they could be integrated and then you have a fully fledged project scheduler</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
it&#8217;s a possibility, I&#8217;m sure that there are other online PM apps which will do that, 37sigs need to be careful not to alienate existing customers by adding too much complexity<br />
most people started using basecamp for it&#8217;s simplicity<span id="more-790"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
Good point but a fundamental aspect to PMing is the ability to schedule work and resource plan</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
It probably wasn&#8217;t an issue when they built it for their team, It&#8217;s an interesting point though, I wonder what other companies who use basecamp do for resource scheduling?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
None i&#8217;d say as it&#8217;s too clumsy at the moment</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
Or use an alternative tool (MS Project or similar) and just use basecamp for progress tracking and project communications</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
That&#8217;s how the majority would be working. If Basecamp had a stronger way of scheduling then they&#8217;d be onto a right winner</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
I suppose it could be optional or only visible to users with PM permisions so as not to add complexity for non-PMs?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
Have it only editable. It needs to be visible for people to know what they are supposed to be working on<br />
Editable only for PMs that is<br />
Viewable for the resources</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
OK, we should let Jason know that we&#8217;re too big for Basecamp and demand resources scheduling or we boycott the service <img src='http://webdeveloper2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
I&#8217;ve already emailed them along the similar lines<br />
 <img src='http://webdeveloper2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
I bet they&#8217;re worried now, watch out for Web 2.0 hitmen, you can spot them easily, they have a glossy sheen and a badge that says &#8220;beta&#8221; on it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
lmao Have they recruited <a href="http://twitter.com/paulfabretti">Fabretti</a>? With a name like that you&#8217;d think he would be their top hit man!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Dave: </strong><br />
I believe they&#8217;ve made him an offer he can&#8217;t refuse</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Jon: </strong><br />
Thing is though, would a beta hit actually work or would I have to stay alive to give feedback for phases 0.1,2,3,4</p>
<p>OK, I know it got a bit silly towards the end but I&#8217;m interested to know how resource scheduling is handled by companies using Basecamp as their project management software. If this applies to you, please take a moment to answer the poll.</p>
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